Brotherhood eps. 52-54

[dragonimp]

Okay, that was well worth watching. On the whole, I thought Al's fight and Roy's fight came off better in the manga, but they were still amazing. But the end part of Roy's, in 54, was incredible. And the subtext - it doesn't even seem right to call it "subtext" anymore, more like all but spelling in out in BIG NEON LETTERS. And I thought it got strong in the manga, geez, that was nothing compared to Roy/Maes flashback central here.

And I'll be damned if I don't have a fem-crush on Olivia now. I mean, she's awesome in the manga, but that voice did me in. Apparently all it takes to make me question my sexuality is an amazing badass voice *coughPakuRomicough*

Comments

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

All I could think was "subtext my ass!" And I wonder if anybody else caught the subtle cruelty of Roy's remark to Riza--that if she shoots him, what will she do with her life? To me...there was a real jab hidden in his words. Granted he was furious--but if you've ever seen a gay man frustrated when a straight woman falls for him and makes a pest of herself and wrecks a friendship...Kind of like, "well, you've made me the center of your existence. I didn't ask for that. You chose to obsess. You kill me...then what are you going to get hung up on?" And her response? a threat of suicide.

And that scene...that scene...the montage...Roy's anguish. How the hell could ANY of those Royai shippers miss that?

Girlcrushing Olivia? Me too. In a heartbeat!

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Harsh on both their parts, but at least Riza has the excuse of trying to snap him out of his rage. (Doesn't make it not unhealthy-codependent-obsessive, though.)

Someone commented on fandomsecrets, "and I will never understand where the hell all this Roy/Hughes come from. No, sorry. I have my slash goggles on and I don't see it, maybe Royai is blocking my eyesight" - yeaaaah, I'd call that a pretty damn big blind spot, considering how OVERWHELMING the Hughes/Roy was there and how insignificant (and one-sided) the Riza/Roy was. How someone can be looking for slashy subtext and not see that baffles me.

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

I am SOOO tempted to make an icon of Hawkeye with the words "Fag Hag"....but I'll be nice. If I *must*...

[nochick-fics.livejournal.com]

LOLOL!!!! But she totally is!

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

The only reason I haven't is that I love Roy and won't call him a fag--but I'm going to find another euphemism--ah. there it is! "Alternate Lifestyle Companion....hmmm...lemme see what I can come up with.

[nochick-fics.livejournal.com]

Ugh, that whole entry pissed me off. I saw your comment on the one person who hated us RoyxEd angry hate!sex pedo shippers. *eyeroll*

Honestly, I know people who have never even HEARD of FMA comment on the underlying gayness. WTF does that tell you???

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

You have to be in serious, serious denial not to see the yaoiness. Especially by now. I managed to get through the whole first anime without thinking Roy/Hughes was canon, but even my denial is not that strong. (So take that, RoyAi-is-canon-so-you-must-ship-it person. It's got less subtext than Roy/Hughes!!)

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

Years ago I showed the original series to one of my straightest friends--and she said, "Roy and Hughes--there was something there, even if it was one-sided. Am I right?"
"Wellllll...."
"No, seriously. It's pretty obvious."
I can't WAIT until she sees eps 53-54.

[greedy-lover.livejournal.com]

Roy was more upset and pissed about Hughes death. Even though it's implied as best friends, he was more UPSET AND ANGRY AT THE DEATH OF HIS BEST FRIEND then when he thought Riza might be dead (the throat) So he was more upset about his dead best friend then the 'love of his life' being dead. I like Roy/Riza but even that seems off. Maybe he wasn't with Hughes but he certainly wasn't that worried about Riza. He's been, at times, more worried about Ed and Al! SO much for the greatest truest love ever from them -_-

[greedy-lover.livejournal.com]

I see it,, like back in training camp days (cause Hughes/Gracia is adorable) But even if nothing happened, there is so much that can be implied.. Plus Roy/Riza hasn't happened. SO it's still fanon. You never know what the end would be. Maybe Roy dies and she marries havoc (I don't want Roy dead!) but for it to be treated as canon when it hasn't actually happened is what is annoying >< Because as it is, who knows? Maybe they all live but Roy is driven to rule and won't bother with Riza and she finds somebody else. That's what annoys me the most. These pairings while implied a lot, haven't happened so they're not freaking canon. WHich is what some of the het fans need a does of. That they precious aren't canon til they actually do happen ><

Sorry for going on a rant and an ot rant at that XD;;;

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

I can't see Hughes cheating on Gracia at all. But there were some very intense feelings between Roy and Hughes (strong enough to make Roy go berserk!) whether they were acted upon or not. Whereas he hardly treats Riza any differently than his other subordinates (and I like Roy/Riza - or I like it from the anime).

I think what annoyed me the most about the hate!sex comment was, has that person taken a good look at the way Ed interacts with Winry? His supposedly canon "love interest"? And they call Roy/Ed "angry hate!sex"??

[greedy-lover.livejournal.com]

Exactly. He was upset when he thought she was dead yes, but he did not have the rampage over it like he did with Hughes (even if it was, YOU KILLED MY BEST FRIEND! and he never had romance feelings for Hughes, he showed MORE emotion over him. He's worried ore over Ed and Al then he did about Riza) The hate!sex.. __ And the they have to be together or he's powerless? Um WTF would he take up something that required that? And I bet she would never let him if he did. She protects him yes, but being that close all the time? She'd be the one to kill him XDD And the everyone should ship canon! No, just no. Just cause it's canon doesn't mean it'd work. That commenter needs to go back and reread the manga before she says that they have to be together all the time or something again -_- And learn about things before she says them. ROy/Ed only have angry makeup sex XDD ANd this is why slashers and heters can't get along.. because one always starts up wank and are asses >

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

Riiiiiight. Nothing gives a guy a boner like being hit and screamed at by someone who was raised as his sister....to me Ed/Win is Elricest with tits and violence....and frankly I'd rather see him screwing Al or Hei--at least they won't scream "you're gonna buy me this!" "You're gonna pay my way!" then beat the crap out of him. What was that line in the movie? "Why is it every time I see you I end up in pain?" Note also in the movie that Sheska was there with them the whole time--so Ed was thankfully chaparoned from that wrench throwing twat.

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

Yep. At least with Al or Hei he wouldn't end up the "browbeaten husband". EdWin shippers will argue "but they really do care for each other" - and they do, but that doesn't make it any less dysfunctional. And if that's how he acts with the person he's "supposed" to be falling for, then his snarking with Roy and calling him Colonel Shit may as well be a declaration of love!

[nochick-fics.livejournal.com]

*impatient pee dance* Now I wanna seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it! Argh!

But I'm going to be a good girl and wait. *sigh* I'm only on, oh, episode 12. At this rate, I kinda feel like it's having to choke down an awful dinner to get to the dessert. D:

[binaryalchemist.livejournal.com]

Icon.
DIES.
Worships.
Prepares pheasant dinner for violation.
(on an uglier note--saw the preview video of the new kuroSHITsuji..I feel...ill.....really ill. I wanna see Ciel beat Alois senseless and then bugger him over the desk between cups of tea,And when Claude began throwing his golden forks and knives...I wanted to see Sebby pull off his gloves...and bugger HIM with a sharp instrument borrowed from Grell....that has a briggs and stratton engine...)

[nochick-fics.livejournal.com]

Hehe, thanks. They are such my crossover OTP it's not even funny. (Still trying to make it through the BJL side story without brain implosion ;-)

Ugh, fucking... what the fuck ever re: the show that should no longer be called Kuroshitsuji. I just... fuck. Seems all I can do is drop f-bombs where that fucking travesty is concerned. *stabs*

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

Bah. I skipped everything between ep. 26 and ep. 52. I may go back and watch them - or certain ones, at least - but so far I can't be bothered. I only watched these because I wanted to see Roy in his full lover's rage glory.

...I may skip the next few because that's where it gets into the gacky almost-RoyAi mess, and pick up again to see Roy get shoved through the Gate.

[nochick-fics.livejournal.com]

True, true. It's not like I'm reading the manga in order.

Fuck it. /finds

[randomcheeses.livejournal.com]

*nods* Big neon letters ten yards high.
It was kinda nice that at the end of the Hughes montage Gracia and Elysia were included. That had me going from 'Wow Roy maybe you should calm down a little, you're starting to look psycho' to 'the b*st*rd took away the adorable little girl's daddy! Roast him already!'

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

I know, I had a total "He made Elysia and Gracia cry!! Roast him, roast him!!" reaction. Right after the "holy shit he made Envy cower in fear--!" reaction. Hoo damn, that man can work a lover's rage!

[randomcheeses.livejournal.com]

Oh damn right he can. I can't wait to watch the dub of that episode. *sighs and devolves into goo*