ch. 104 translation fine points

[dragonimp]

Okay, on page 49, according to the rough translation from Tombow, Ed says: "Did everyone turn into a philosopher's stone?!" Which I took to mean everyone there - meaning Ed and co.

However, in the translation from Hisshouburaiken, Ed's line is "Did you turn all those people into a philosopher's stone?!

Father's lines from both translations imply that he used the souls to hold "god" inside himself, and that god and the souls are now inside him - nothing about them being inside anyone else.

So have Ed and co. been turned into philosopher's stones, or are all of the souls now inside Father? That makes a big difference in how powerful our heros now are and how much of a chance they stand against the new and improved Father.

Comments

[fullmetalrose.livejournal.com]

I understood that ALL the souls were now inside Father. With only the few living ... it is my belief that he let those that lived become equal to Hoenheim ...

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

Hohenheim is the way he is because he had half the souls of Xerxes placed inside of him, which made him a philosopher's stone - but if all the souls are in Father, then the others should be mortal. The Tombow translation is ambiguous, but the Hisshouburaiken seems to say pretty clearly that all the souls went to Father.

[fullmetalrose.livejournal.com]

Ok but then why did he keep the few that are there alive? That is what has me completely lost UNLESS there is more that we don't know which will be revealed next month ... dammit Arakawa for all this suspense and confusion!

[priestess-grrrl.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I understood it as all the souls being inside Father, too. But I didn't think about him making all of them - Ed & co - into philosophers' stones, same as he made HH. That would make sense as to why Father needed them. But why would he be able to use HH then, if he's already "full" of the Xerxes souls? (can you be "full"?) Weird, I hadn't thought about that.

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

The Tombow translation is ambiguous - I thought Ed meant "everyone" as in "everyone here", but that's not what the Hisshouburaiken translation says. It makes more sense for him to keep all the souls, since the reason he gave half to Hohenheim the first time around was out of some weird sense of obligation.

[randomcheeses.livejournal.com]

Pretty sure all the souls are inside Father. Why wouldn't they be after all? If the five are sacrifices, Mr.I've-been-working-my-evil-plot-for-centuries would be kinda stupid to give them any kinda power that would trip him up.

[dragonimp.livejournal.com]

That would make the most sense. I'm thinking I misread the Tombow translation.